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First Jack Black and Kyle Gass gave us the world’s greatest band. With the help of Dave Grohl and Satan, they now unleash the world’s greatest movie.
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What was the inspiration for Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny?
KG: People are always asking, “How did you guys get together? How did that happen?” We thought, Wait a minute—everyone seems to want to know about that. So we decided to make a movie. And now we never have to answer that question ever again.
JB: We came to the realization it’s got to start at the beginning. It’s like with superheroes: How did they get their powers? With the D: How did they become the greatest group in the world?
KG: Scratch that itch.
JB: High-five!

What are your favorite rock films?
KG: Did you ever see a little movie called Airheads? That to me said it all. It was hard to even think of doing our movie after seeing Airheads. I watch it every time it’s on, and it just rocks. Also, I love the movie Rock Star with Mark Wahlberg. I love Steel Dragon. To me Steel Dragon was like a real group. Steel Dragon! They nailed it.
JB: I didn’t see that movie. Were they trying to be funny?
KG: No.

How did making the movie compare to touring?
KG: It’s apples and peaches.
JB: The D movie is harder work. You wake up at 6 a.m.; you put in a 14-hour day. The D tour, it’s pretty mellow. You’ve got the fucking Xbox 360 on the bus; you’ve got luxury hotels. Then you work two hours a night.
KG: And people go nuts.
JB: The thing about the movie that’s fun is when you’re done you send yourself out on tour and play 100 cities simultaneously, eight shows a day.

Other than The Pick of Destiny, what’s the high point in the history of metal?
KG: Led Zeppelin IV is pretty good.
JB: Black Sabbath’s “War Pigs.” Metal at its most metal.

And the low point?
KG: Rock Star: Supernova.
JB: Did you know that Dave Navarro’s not in Supernova?
KG: He is. He joined. First he was a host, and then he realized…Actually, I don’t know what he realized.
JB: I realized they’d be lame without him, because they don’t have a lead guitarist. Gilby Clarke was never a lead guitarist in Guns n’ Roses.
KG: By the way, anyone who hops on after Appetite for Destruction isn’t really in Guns n’ Roses. You don’t count. I mean, Matt Sorum?
JB: The end of metal was either Poison’s “Every Rose Has Its Thorn” or Nirvana. The ripping free of the torch.
KG: We have a song listing the things that tried to replace the metal. They all failed.
JB: Even grunge failed in the end.

Speaking of grunge, Dave Grohl again plays drums on the new album. Is he the honorary third D member?
KG: Do you want to make him an honorary member?
JB: The thing about Dr. G, there’s always an empty drum kit waiting for him wherever we are. We bring one with us just in case he shows up. His friendship is worth more than gold. The G doesn’t just stand for Grohl: It stands for gold. Of course he’s an honorary member.
KG: Is anyone else an honorary member?
JB: No. They are on D-Team. They are part of our Thunder Squad. But we don’t owe anyone more than Dr. Grohl.
KG: I wish he’d play live with us. You can’t pin him down. He’s like smoke. He might show up, he might not.
JB: He came to one of our early shows and expressed his enthusiasm. From the beginning we were like, “Oh, man, can you imagine if he played drums on the D album?” Somehow we were able to get him to agree to play two songs. Then we locked the doors, brought in barbecue, and he wound up staying and doing all the songs on the album in a day. Dave brought the thunder, and then he brought it again.

He also appears as Satan in The Pick of Destiny.
KG: We had to put him through, like, six hours of makeup.
JB: He played the demon in our music video for “Tribute,” so we asked him to reprieve the role.
KG: Reprise?
JB: Can you cut me slack?
KG: The Dark Lord actually produced our movie. The director had to consult with the devil continuously.
JB: It’s true. We actually got the devil to play himself in the movie. We didn’t want to do it, but we finished the movie and the devil went, “I want to play a role.”
KG: A very vain man.


Since you’ve mastered metal, what’s the next music genre you plan to conquer?
KG: We’d like to get into classical.
JB: There’s not really a big market for new classical composers. All of them have gone into movies. John Williams would be today’s Beethoven. Write that down.
KG: Let me say this. Like Louis Armstrong, like Miles Davis, these types of musicians started genres in music. You could say Louis Armstrong invented bebop.
JB: Not bebop.
KG: Yes, bebop.
JB: Louis Armstrong turned his fucking nose up at the bebop movement. I’m sorry to take issue, but recently I’ve seen a documentary by Ken Burns, so I’m 10 hours more intelligent when it comes to jazz than you.
KG: A new genre might be the ultimate challenge.
JB: D-bop.

Which do you prefer: cult success or mass celebrity?
KG: I can answer for Jack. Jack’s level of fame is no fun. It’s too much attention. Now you say that and people go, “Too famous? What a thing to complain about!” I’m sorry, but it’s true. Sometimes you want to eat dinner with your family.
JB: Thanks, dude. I couldn’t say that.
KG: He couldn’t.
JB: You say it for me.
KG: Me, I lap it up like a kitten because I’m very insecure and I wasn’t loved or something. I crave it like a drug.
JB: That’s why I’m in it, too. I like attention, but some people have no clue. I’m carrying my child over a bridge: “Can you put your child down on the sidewalk and sign my ass?” Makes you wanna kill some people.

What’s the best thing your partner’s done away from you?
JB: Trainwreck.
KG: Trainwreck is my side-project band. The irony is that the bass player, the guitarist, and the lead singer are all part of our show. We just changed the drummer to make it look good. I’d say the thing that Jack is most proud of is Never Ending Story III. Obviously, everybody’s fond of Never Ending Story I. It’s like the Rocky movies; the odd ones are great!
JB: In III they got back to the magic.

What does the future hold for the D?
KG: We’re looking forward to a really bad sequel. You’re always going to say, “Not as good as the first one.”
JB: You’re really gonna say that.
KG: We’re not even gonna try.
JB: I liked your idea of the triple trilogy: It’s a nine-parter.
KG: The old Star Wars. George Lucas said he knew the full story. He’s so full of crap. “This is Part VI. This is Part IX.”
JB: He may have had an outline.
KG: We’ll give you one sneak peak into the sequel: Jar Jar Binks will be involved.
JB: What are the chances that George would let Jar Jar join the D? [In Jar Jar voice] “Exqueeze me!”
KG: That ought to light up the blogs.



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